I’ve been waiting for some decent weather here in New Zealand to record some decent 720p sample videos for you all. Since you weren’t so happy with my audio test. Its not summer here so finding a good day was hard.
These videos were to A) Test the new AAC audio codec B) Prove to people that the phone records at stable frame rate, not 15fps as some other brand phone fanboys claim. I’ve seen that some people have been posting shocking HD video samples recorded on either slow memory cards that can’t keep up with the data write rates required. Or jerky video as they can’t or will not hold the damn phone still. Those videos do not correctly reflect the quality of 720p video this phone can produce. In fact some of them seem to be intentionally bad.
Please note these two videos were filmed on an overcast and dark day. (Blame New Zealand winters!)
Since this phone is a phone and not a HD camera it has no image stabilization. Hence any movements or shakes I make results in jerky video.No fault in low or poor fps by the phone as claimed by some users and review sites.
Video of a Cathay pacific Airbus A340 taking off from Auckland international airport. The day was overcast and quite dark. Time of the day was 1:40pm. Youtube does not do this video justice of course.
Sample 720p video IG2 Firmware – Tracking a passing bus. Testing the cameras FPS is stable when tracking a bus moving at aprox 70+ kmp/h. Background noise was some aircraft turbine engines. Airports are noisy!
Download the full 720p Mp4 video samples:
Airbus 340 taking off from Auckland International.
Bus passing at speed / Auckland International
hey. its no point of showing the videos online. I downloaded the two videos, and yes the sound is better, I couldn’t see any skipping of frames. Much better that my own reckording on my i8910. I use the internal memory card to reckord videos by the way
That’s not too bad for a phone. Although it would of course be perfect with just 3 or 4 FPS more.
Thanks for the video examples !
Now please someone tell me how do you watch those HD videos in a TV set with no hdmi port ?
if u have a ps3 then u can use DLNA n stream it through the ps3 and i think i read that it works on X360 aswell
thats the only wireless way im aware of unless ur tv has wireless
Hi Briggs – are you able to comment on your DLNA ‘connected home’ app on xxIG2 specifically? I could use this app on xxIE2 for only jpgs and mp3s via PS3, but not .mp4s. With xxIG2 the app has become totally broken and does not save any user settings. And does not quit properly. You tap Exit and it does nothing, you must tap exit a few times before it quits. I’ve worked on the app for an hour or so with my PS3 and nothing happens. The xxIE2 version of the app connected in about 15 secs, all ok. I have quite a few writeups in the allaboutsymbian i8910 forum.
On another note, the new .mp4-aac videos of the xxIG2 still do not playback, even by cable, through the PS3 – the PS3 still thinks this is an ‘unsupported data type’!
My only way to view HD on my Samsung LC TV is via connecting up a PC + Quicktime.
I disagree with you that the video is smooth. Sure it is ‘not bad’ but none of my recordings are smooth – the frame rate ‘jerks’ every 1-2 secs. Audio much better of course. As with comment above, another 3-4 fps would make it almost good.
I’ve had a report from another user on the AAS forums that his DLNA app with xxIG2 is working ok, so somehow I have picked up a bug with my firmware updating in this respect (no idea how that is possible, but there you have it). If anyone can report if their “Connected Home” app works in xxIG2 e.g. to a PS3, if only for the mp3s / jpgs, that would be awesome. *kudos to Briggs for this great thread and effort in getting up some .mp4s* thanks!
This videos are alot better. Still, I was expecting to see some people talking and some live music, that would be great.
Coming, when I’m next at a live conference or concert.
Hey man, I was wondering, do you also have the dots problems on your Omnia HD’s camera or not? Because in your video I can’t see any dots appearing, maybe it’s because it’s bright enough… Let me know!
Yes if I record in dark lighting I have 2 white dots in 720p video only. They are on the upper left and low right corners of the video. It doesn’t bother me much.
I have 4 dots that appear in low light. Bit of a pain = I don’t record videos in low light. In fact, I barely use the i8910 to record videos at all, just not smooth enough (yet). The stills are quite acceptable though.
I posted a picture of those 4 hot pixels on one of the posts lower down the page here:
Ok guys , since alot of people wanted a video in a gig or a concert I decided to take a video in Ministry of Sound while judge jules was playing a track called LED by rank 1.
here is the download link : http://rapidshare.com/files/257450181/Video002.mp4.html
unfortunately , the audio in a concert or a gig still sucks ! download for proof.
PS:I was using the latest Italian Firmware with the AAC codec.
Use an FPS counter but that does NOT look like a solid 24 all the way through.
The plane video is a constant 24 fps. The panning video of the bus is 23.** fps yes its not quite 24fps. Just download the files and check this if you don’t believe me 🙂 or check this post with shows the fps – http://samsungi8910omnia.com/forum/omnia-hd-general-discussion/recording-720p-video-to-memory-card-needs-class-2-min-mirco-sdhc-!!/msg10538/#msg10538
I have to say that, although the files I get from my i8910 report that they are 24fps .mp4 with, now AAC audio, on the fps side of things, I have never seen a smooth movie from my handset – similar to the files you can download here. every few seconds about 3 to, in one of my own files, up to 10 frames, are fixed. This means the movie looks like it has paused – so, no frames are being dropped, but just duplicated. Hance it still reads 24fpos, but in fact, the movie playback is juddery. The worst I ever recorded was of a car coming towards me and the .mp4 ‘pauses’ so to speak for 12 frames during seconds 2 and 3. The files still registers 24fps and no dropped frames in its 10 second totality. I am recording to the Mass Memory all the time, so no mem. card throughput issues. These anomalies happen on both D1 (480) and HD-ready (720p) settings. Also, the quality at 720p is so soft in resolution, I would even go so far to say that it could be a 480 feed, just interpolated up to 720… 🙂 One day I hope that the i8910 will be subjected to a Performance review, similar to that, say, here:
Either way, I just don’t bother with shooting 720p with the i8910 at all, it is too jerky, but use it almost every day to shoot in Widescreen (6MP) to match my lounge TV for quick replay of .jpgs for the family.
In fact, I just found this:
and it will be great to see if camcorderinfo follow this up one day with the i8910 HD.
Cheers to all at samsungi8910omnia.com for a great site!
Hi Briggs, some people say since the new firmware is released they can not watch HD videos via DLNA. What do you think ? did you try it ?
Hi – I wasn’t able to watch 720p videos via DLNA before xxIG2 new firmware, with my xxIE2 firmware. I’ve never been able to stream ANY .mp4 successfully via DLNA (PS3 route). I challenge anyone to actually show how they have done it! 🙂 I have quite a few postings over at allaboutsymbian. My belief is that it doesn’t have the hardware speed to properly stream DLNA (and/or take smooth, proper 24 fps) 720p movies at all… just my humble opinion… it is very close, granted, but not quite there!
Hello guys, I used my i8910 to make several videos, but the video and the audio quality werent up to expectation.I use MediaCode to check the frame rate, it’s only 21.35frame/second. I am using the latest IG2 firmware.
FYI, I was shooting indoor, not well lit but not very dark. I was also using the highest resolution(1280×720).
Once I get the permission from friends, I can share the videos.
I agree totally with this post. I experience exactly the same on all my videos (well, when I bother to shoot any now). In the ‘HD’ experience part, the i8910 IMHO is currently very much in BETA development. Samsung are SO close, we need to give them all the best vibes possible and good karma to crack the i8910 firmware issues!
Hi, Briggs – great post – I’m interested in the second of your videos – I downloaded
Bus passing at speed / Auckland International
and this is certainly a much smoother video than any I have managed to record – however, there is a little ‘jump’ in the bus’s movement at about 6 seconds, just _before_ it passes behind the streetlight in the foreground. I get that kind of stutter and usually much worse, every second or so. Did you reboot the i8910 just before taking this shot? Did you install any apps on the i8910 i.e. did you flash to xxIG2, then go straight out and use the handset? I’m just trying to get a handle on the quality of the movie itself and how you might have achieved this smoothness. I’m also wondering if there might be a different ‘batch’ of i8910’s out there, with different quality sensors. In fact, I would say that your overall image quality (not the motion part) in the movie file is, sort of, smoother in texture and, dare I say, a little bit ‘clearer’ than my output. PS neither yours nor my output I would say is sharp enough to be fully called 720p IMHO. I wonder what the ‘actual’ horizontal lines resolution are ? I bet they are more like 375-400 and outputted up to just give a 720 file. My handset was bought in the UK in early June. Thanks again!
Hi no reboot, but I closed all open apps first. I have some applications installed and recorded those movies to an official sandisk SDHC 8gb class 4 mircosd. This was a few days after flashing IG2 firmware. Not sure why people don’t have the same fps/smoothness. Maybe due to where you record the video files? Internal flash or a slow sd card?
you guys are useing cheap SD cards, Ichanged mine to a high quality card and my videos are crisp and smooth.
I always record to the internal Mass Memory, and always get stuttery/jerky bits every 1-2 secs. Soun dis better of course (xxIG2 firmware) AAC encoded. Surely this is still faster, or as fast as, using a Class 4 microSDHC? I am planning on waiting for the 32Gb cards to become available (and tested ok) before I use up any money on expansion for my i8910. I have 1 Gb and 2Gb ‘slow’ cards in other devices – mmm… maybe I should do a test with them! and see if it is even worse!
What type and make of SD card are you using Adansirs5
i am using kingston SDHC 8gb class 4 mircosd, i set the exposure level to +1 and +1.5 because the it was quite dark. But i record the movies in phone mass memory, i guess it doesnt make a difference anyway ?
my friends are not happy that those clips are uploaded publicly, wth …
any clues? tips ?
Just though I would let people know I have just sent my Omnia HD back to be replaced. The battery life went down to less than a day. So orange are giving me a brand new one. lets hope it has some new firmware on it too… hmmmm
anyone else had any problems?
hi every one, i have a problem while updating the phone with PC Studio for the new firmware IG2 : the updating starts well but at 27% it stops and the USB connection looses (the phone is no longer connected to the computer) that’s why the update can’t finish. Any solution please ?
Hi, why is not the frame rate stable ? I´m not talking about these videos specifically. 24 fps. is fine but it should be fluid, constant. It happen most of the times and look jerky. Any explanation please ?
HD VIDEOS STUTTER AND I CAN´T STAND THIS, HELPPPP !
Are you playing them back on a 486 with 64mb of ram? You need a decent spec computer to play HD files remember.
Hi Briggs, I’m more interested in the fact that you are using the phone in New Zealand. I’m a Kiwi and is thinking to buy the i8910. How did it perform on the NZ network and which network did you use. Also any problem with settings etc? Thanks
I use vodaphone. But it will work on Telecom XT. Settings and everything work fine. Thanks for reading.
I have a question, can we swith off the haptic feed back on i8910HD? I dont like that vibrating effect on touch..
Here we go!
I made this video on U2 show 2 weeks ago. I think the audio improved a lot cause I also recorded a video on Britney Spear show a month ago(before the firmware update) and its HORRIBLE sound quality!!! But today I recorded a video while driving and the music sound so bad! Checjk it out:
U2 show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKtB6cZIHGI
Britney show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQlZOBCUF4E
Video while driving: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2y1dkhChG4
I know these videos measure close to 24fps but GSMArena commented that the video recording drops frames or duplicates frames. This might explain the choppiness of the film even though it’s still “24 fps”
Hopefully a firmware update will fix this?
Here is another sample recorded onto a 16GB mirco sd
I record my vids with the internal 8gb flash on the phone.
I have updated to IG2 720p videos jerk too much when moving the camera and ive had 2 instances when the audio is out of sync too (I have a fast enough comp as I have a xacti hd1000 that plays vids smooth as silk its a issue that happens when recording).
checking on some video editing programs the fps is screwy. it DOES drop frames when you record too busy images (probably too much data for the processors in the phone to handle).
I myself have got round this…..I used 0.35mm setting (720×480 that uses 30fps only dropping to 26fps still giving a smooth recording) then use “power director pro” to upscale to 720p and sharpen the image.
the results are the same as the standard 720p video from the phone EXCEPT that the fps is smooth.
The cam on this phone is never going to be as good as flip mino HD or Kodak z16 or even Lumix tz7. I do believe the 720p mode is some kind of upscale on the phone as the image is very soft even in good light. but it does deliver some great video in comparison to some D1 cams out there. And handy for me when I dont have my trusty xacti….plus the phone takes some great photos!! Im getting a micro SD class 4 in a few days so will see if that improves things with the 720p recording (doubtful).
Hi everybody. I recently flashed my HD to the newest Italian IG2 firmware and i LOVE it. 🙂 Its faster, smoother, and in all ways awesome when compared to its predecessors. I have a query however, should someone be able to help me…
When loading the camcorder function in order to record a video I notice in the top left-hand corner of the camera screen the letters: AWB *and an audio speaker* … It’s my understanding that this recording format is different to the one everyone has been talking about, the promise to remove the horrible audio recording and replace with AAC format… Perhaps I am missing a hidden setting somewhere to activate the correct codec… Any ideas guys?
AWB=Auto white balance
the *audio speaker* audio recording on.
When you updated to IG2 The codec automatically has changed to AAC…no need to find a hidden setting.
haha thanks Andy. I feel like a total n00b now but hey! Tested the new recording format the other night at a live gig, damn close to perfect. 🙂
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